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(CNS Business): With unemployment among Caymanians growing and close to 20,000 work permits held by foreign nationals, the premier has called on local employers and business owners to give Caymanians a chance to work. McKeeva Bush questioned how there could be so many work permits issued to the private sector while so many local people were without a job. Bush suggested that the current unemployment rate was 8%, but according to the Economics and Statistics Office it is nearer 10% among Caymanians and among young men it is even higher. Bush said he was not asking businesses to give work to people who were not qualified but where a Caymanian was capable of doing the job employers needed to give priority to the local population.
Speaking at the Mary Miller Hall on Wednesday evening, at a public meeting about the budget, the premier appeared puzzled that the country's immigration policies had allowed a situation where the local unemployment rate was increasing but there were still some 20,000 people from overseas working in the jurisdiction on permits.
He revealed that one of the new fees in the budget would be an extra 5% for work permits held for staff doing work that could be done by Caymanians, such as clerks and painters. Bush said he hoped the new fee would encourage employers to take on local people who are seeking work instead of looking overseas for people.
The premier said it appeared to be too easy for employers to make a case for permit holders to be employed when there were suitable Caymanians available, although he did not explain what criteria would be used to identify jobs that could be done by Caymanians.
“There has far too much been going on,” he said, referring to work permits still being given to overseas workers, despite a weakening economy in which local people were being laid off. Bush added that he hoped the additional fee would encourage people to use available local staff and create job opportunities for the unemployed.
If employers insisted on “going down that road” of employing work permit holders, they would pay the extra fee. “We need to meet this challenge,” he said. “We don't expect a painter to be an accountant but we can expect a painter to paint.”
Bush said he was trying his best to help people at a time when businesses did not appear to be concerned about what was happening to the local people. He said they appeared not to understand that they can't make ends meet and can't pay their electrical bills, and as a result end up on the doorstep of every politician looking for assistance.
He appealed to employers and business owners to do their bit for the community by employing local people. He said employers should not be telling Caymanians who are looking for work and prepared to do anything that they are over qualified but should give them the job. Bush said the private sector had to play its part and help address the problem of local unemployment by giving up some work permits and taking on Caymanians instead.
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Mac,
Mac,
The difference between businesses and government is that business fail when they are wasteful and have no regard for productiviity. Unlike government, true value for money is always the number one goal. Every cent a business spends is accounted for and must result in an overall net financial gain at the end of the year. Every sqaure foot of leased space must go toward turning a profit, otherwise it becomes a liability and must be eliminated.
You cannot force the business community to take on local employess for the sake of giving someone a job if that person is not truly required, or qualified to be an asset to the bottom line. Socialism and capitalism are at opposite ends of the spectrum. Your practice of socialism, which takes from the rich to give to the poor does not and cannot exist in the business world. Your intentions may be good in humanitarian terms but your request is unrealistic. If your true aim is to help the ordinary Caymanian and the poor, then start cutting taxes and fees that are strangling this economy and watch your revenue grow. With that revenue you can pay down debt and fund social services to do theri job of servicing the needy.
Isn't a large part of the
Isn't a large part of the proposed solution to the budget crisis an increase in work permit fees? Won't the gains from this revenue source only be realised if employers hire more foreign workers over Caymanians?
And if the employers stay to
And if the employers stay to hire anyone else too - many are leaving already due to the uncertainty caused by the expat tax announcement, and as to whether it will ever be suggested or introduced again in the future now that it has reared its ugly head. Those already hit by the hike in fees are already looking to move elsewhere should they be targeted yet again for an increase in fees.
When McKeeva wakes up May
When McKeeva wakes up May 2013 after electios ;and realize that Ezzard Miller is the new premier
of the Cayman Islands, then maybe he will have gotten the message that people are fedup with this WORK PERMIT MADNES!
This new announcement of so called concern is nothing more than political postering.......it wo't do THE OMOV is the thermometer Mr. Premier that our young people are sick of old folks giving away the country and the YOUNG WILL TAKE BACK CAYMAN!
Rest asured. this is a new generation that has been abused by government and disenfranchised to the max.
MCKEEVA, YOU ARE THE MAN TO FORCE BUSINESSES TO HIRE YOUR PEOPLE
OR CANCEL THEIR BUSINESS LICENSE!
Sitting at the entrance to
Sitting at the entrance to the landfill with a clipboard writing down vehicle numbers seems to be very difficult work. I say this because I note that this position is filled by an expat who spends most of his time conversing with an expat female sitting in a car parked next to the gate house, while vehicles go in and out of the landfill completely unnoticed to the employee. Is this position so difficult that it is unattractive to a caymanian, or do caymanians consider themselves above doing this kind of work???. Surely this job would be more respectable than going around robbing innocent people or businesses.
Rather that focus on the
Rather that focus on the person doing the job, stop and think why the job is being done. If you can't think of any use for that information after it is written down, and I certainly can't, then he may as well be counting flies. On the other hand, this might be one job that can safely be cut from the Civil Service without reducing any "service" provided.
McKeeva I guess you were not
McKeeva I guess you were not thinking about those Caymanians when you were dishing out those 3,000 status grants in 2003 eh ?
Do I smell elections around the corner........politricks !!!
It's Still The Same, and Getting Worse
I was an expat in Cayman, working in a white collar job, back in the 1990s. I was happy to enjoy a couple years, and after the boredom and top-to-bottom dysfunction got to be too much, leave with no regrets. You could see even then that the island was going in the wrong direction. Despite being handed the substantial gifts of tourism dollars and banking sector jobs, courtesy primarily of the USA, Cayman is not in a good position. The uneducated locals still don't get that you have to go to college for years - pay your dues - if you want positive employment prospects and a good-sized paycheck. How is a bank supposed to give a job that involves managing millions of dollars to a barely literate person? You have to be willing to consistently get up in the morning and apply yourself, and learn how to conduct yourself in a professional office environment. No, too many of the locals simply want to cry racism, act belligerently, and play the victim card. And the politicians, in the interests of getting elected, just spend, spend and spend. Within 20 years, Cayman is going to deteriorate into nothing.
ITS SIMPLE PEOPLE!!!!
ITS SIMPLE PEOPLE!!!!
1. All Caymanians, young and old, if you are quailfied to do SOOOO many of the jobs the expats do then hand in your resume to the Labour Board.
2. Make all employers require that they rejister there positions looking to be filled with the labour board.
3. Labout board then needs to give a letter to the employer stating NO qualified Caymanian is ,seeking the job. If there are Caymanian qualified seeking the job, then dont give the employer the letter. SIMPLE!!!!!
YOUNG CAYMANAIAN GET OFF YOUR A$$ AND STOP BLAMING OTHERS FOR NOT HAVING A JOB!!!! ALL the young Caymaniams that I know, that are educated, and ambitious have great jobs, and have other doors opening constantly! TAKE YOUR LIFE IN YOUR OWN HANDS!!!!
BUSH STOP FEEDING THE FIRE!!!!!!!
Yes it is simple people, I
Yes it is simple people, I agree with you there are absolutely no qualified Caymanians without jobs (sic), all the Caymanians that do not have jobs are bums that want social services money. They can go get jobs at Burger King, Wendy's, KFC in the hotels as maids, in the supermarkets and doing domestic work if they cannot find suitable jobs at the moment. Jobs are available in Cayman. I hope that you will always have a job or business and can find money at all times because you will be left to eat your own words and I hope that it will be sooner than later. When it happens don't I repeat Don't go to Bush to feed the fire as many of you love to do.
Mac
Mac
How about you just enforce the Immigration Law?
Question. Would any private
Question. Would any private sector employer hire McKeeva Bush or is he one of the "unemployables" who needs the government teat?
Just asking.
Is this a joke?
McKeeva Bush questioned how there could be so many work permits issued to the private sector while so many local people were without a job
Hahaha!
I hope this is a joke.
Last time I checked - Caymanians approved and or denied work permits and these same people happen to be paid Civil Servants at that!
Good grief.
Work PErmits
Actually - those are Board Members who review applications...
Bush needs to compare how
Bush needs to compare how many work permits Bermuda has vs Cayman. Yet they have a vibrant economy.
He should not have to beg employers to offer jobs as Premier. Our policies should be in place and so enforced that we are masters of our own destiny.
The problem is that successive politicians have not followed a strategic plan of keeping and controlling Cayman for Caymanians,and now the chickens are coming home to roost.
I understand that it all went south between 1976 -1984, and has been going down ever since. And I wonder who was in charge then?
Mr Bush there is no one to
Mr Bush there is no one to blame for Caymanians not having jobs but the Immigration Department. They are the one who are giving out these work permits. Blame them and no one else.
I did blame them and they
I did blame them and they said that they do what Mac tells them to do and if they stand up to him they will be removed.
Mr. Premier,
Mr. Premier,
YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO STOP ISSUING THE WORK PERMITS SO
STOP THIS MADNESS!
You are the blame for not enforcing the labor laws! And the UDP is passing labor laws claiming to protect jobs for Caymanians WITHOUT ANY ENFORCEMENT OR REGULATION!
what a mockery!
The people will vote Ezzard in who WILL DO SOMETHING ABOUT THESE WORK PERMITS
so the UDP will lose if they do not get people into those jobs instead of govt. continuing to collect work permit fees, is that what you are going to continue to do?
When people have no backbones
When people have no backbones they cannot standup. One thing about the expats againt taxes they stood up and let their voice be heard and Government had to listen. I hope that this group continues effecting changes in Cayman. They need to advocate for expats living here for 20 or more year the right to run for elections and people living here for 5 or more years the right to vote this is only fair these people contribute so much to Cayman society just as much as locals.
I am an expat (been here many years) and I am about to employ a Caymanian this year and probably two more next in my small business - if everyone does their bit it will help the situation. There are a lot of good Caymanians needing jobs give me your e-mail if you want some great resumes.
A note for McKeeva
What is disgusting about this call by you McKeeva is that it is purely political. Elections are around the corner and you are on that roll.
You are the Premier of these Islands and have approved all policies which are in place in the Immigration Service. If a prevous governement brought in the particular regulation causing this problem of so many work permits, well you are the most powerful man in these isalnds and can change that.
Blame is such an easy thing . This one is about "its the private sector's fault" . Always someone else to blame. As a Caymanian I want to ask you- what are you responsible for?
For goodness sake McKeeva, stay quiet for a couple months you have discredited yourself enough now. We are tired of your empty vessel shouting with just hot air.
You would not allow anyone to go to the Harquail to the Generation NOW forum. You trotted of to Jamaica to celebrate with them in the middle of your creation - the expat income tax crisis.
You always spout from the Bible well, here is one _ "Charity begins at home".
Mr. Premier you title says it
Mr. Premier you title says it all, you are the leader do what is right by your people don't ask others to do it. Leaders lead you are the elected leader. We expect you to lead not the business community, not the Chamber, not a sigle NGO, you Mr. Premier is the leader of this country. You have the ultimate power. You are the official leader of these islands the person who can with the support of the Cabinet change just about any law. Now do what is right and stop the political postering. Caymanians are too smart for this kind of third world politics. You did not ask native Caymanians to approve a single amendment to the immigration law so now don't beg to hire Caymanians make it an effective law. I would rather live under the master's table and be fed than to be seated at the master's and be hungry. I say all that to say this I would much rather UK rule and have laws and regulations that would benefit me than to have an elected Premier and have nothing and laws that are against me.
I tried - they never showed
I tried - they never showed up!
The work permit board just
The work permit board just renewed my permit but stated in the conditions that in their opinion two of the Caymanian applicants were suitably qualififed for my position. I don't know how they came to this conclusion, because other than having average typing speeds and accuracy (high speed and accuracy are required for my job, and moreso the latter to ensure we are not sued for professional negligence), none of them had ever worked in my line of work before and none of them had even a basic understanding of the work I do, the international clients we deal with and the various different legalities and procedures depending on which country you are working with, and which jurisdiction the deal will be closing in. My boss delegates a lot of his work to me - something entirely usual in my line of work. However, had we taken either of these girls on, none of the work could be delegated as neither of them would have a clue how to do it, thus my boss would have twice as much to do because he would have nobody to delegate to.
Seriously, what I do took me 20 years of working from the bottom of the ladder to the top to learn, and I am still learning something new most days, and other skills I learnt at college and couldn't possibly teach to someone else. I don't know what criteria the work permit board use but they seriously need to understand that having a qualification doesn't automatically mean someone can understand and perform another person's job. If they are going to make decisions that affect another person's business, then perhaps its time the work permit board took time out to fully understand that persons business before telling them what to do with it.
I apologise if I come across in any way conceited - that was not my intention. I just think the way the work permit board operates is fundamentally flawed. They are giving permits and key status to people doing jobs that many Caymanians are trained for, and refusing permits for specialised positions that really do need specific international skills.
Polygon-mouth Bush
How many sides of his mouth does this man expect to speak from? How could the country's immigration policies be the cause of failure when he has had Sherri on one committee or another reviewing immigration policies since he was elected?
Did Sherri not come up with any recommendations, or like the budget was McKeeva too busy to take them to the House for discussion?
Isn't Sherri also head of the Work Permit Board? If you have full control of immigration and work permits, and still you're not pleased with the results then who is to blame?
Whe hes say's "Caymanians" is
Whe hes say's "Caymanians" is he also referring to the thousands who stood in like for 3 hours and instantly became citizens and now sit on Eastern Avenue playing Dominoes and drinking beer all day?
I say search the background of every person that was issued status that way and if they are not working, revoke their status and send the home.
Why Would They Not Employ A Caymanian?
Foreign workers are expensive, requiring work permits, living allowances and all sorts of govenment imposed hurdles to their employemnt.
It would be far easier, and possibly cheaper(certainly not more expensive) to hire a Camanian.
So ask; why would employers not employ a Caymanian? The answer to that question is the root of your problem.
Where are these overqualified
Where are these overqualified, "Caymanians who are looking for work and prepared to do anything," Mr Premier?
After working through numerous candidates who had apparently graduated but actually couldn't read, write or do basic math (many would be struggling to pass the English test required for a work permit) we took one young Caymanian on and by the end of the first week he was demanding that we buy him work clothes and pay for his lunches. When that request was fairly politely refused he decided the job was beneath his standards and quit. Another apparently promising recruit simply never turned up and ignored our phone calls. We recruited an ex-pat.
It doesn't seem to be a case of employers refusing to recruit Caymanians but more of Caymanians making themselves unemployable. It's not the employers attitude that needs to change but the propective employees.
Two simple message -
1. Being Caymanian does not guarantee you a job - particularly one you have never bothered to get the required qualifications for.
2. Being an employee means exactly that - you go to work and get paid for that work. You goof off, take sick days just because you can't be bothered to get out of bed, spend all day texting your friends or doing your email and you will get fired.
There are many good, well educated, hard working Caymanians out there but very, very few of them are unemployed and there's a moral there.
Where are they, I am right
Where are they, I am right here and prob more qualified than you. I have an MBA a BSC etc
So why are you not working? A
So why are you not working? A BSc & MBA in what discipline? Do you have any work experience?
What positions have you applied for and been turned down, have you documented it and contacted the Labour Board, your local MLA?
Hiring Caymanian
Well, our office had hired a Caymanian person, who was college graduated, but not certified yet, which was a requirement for all other candidates. That person was smart and seemed eager to learn.. But the job required 50-60 hours per week of hard work. In 4 months that person left for an "easy" job.
60 hr week!
15:19
Umm thats because a 50- 60 hr week is against the Labour Law. Sounds like constructive dismissal to me.
You are right. It is
You are right. It is codified in that secret section that also allows employees to stay at home if it is raining and consider sick leave as "ad hoc vacation".
What a load of BS. You
What a load of BS. You clearly have never had a job before and understand little of the law.
60 hr work week
That is hilarious!
FYI- For some lines of business that is the norm. In public accounting for example during busy season you 50-70 hours 7 days a week is the average. Its also worse here because there are two busy season for funds and insurance. See this is what kills me. If you want a job, and learn skill sets and get experience, you work, you put in the time and you work. This is what makes you marketable.
And the person quit, they were not fired so where do you get "constructive dismissal"?
..eeerrrrr
Constructive dismissal is forcing someone to quit by making their working life "intolerable", so it is perfectly reasonable to apply the phrase. It's what constitutes "intolerable" that is open to debate.
I've averaged over 70 hour
I've averaged over 70 hour weeks in the last 4 months, it comes with the job
and I am only paid for 37.5 hours a week. It is a recession you must be willing to roll up your sleeves and get on with it.
Many in the private sector
Many in the private sector have been doing this for the last few years. Perhaps this is a way to cut the CS? Put them to work on the same terms we've been doing these last few years and watch them leave quick if they don't get paid for all the additional hours they have to put in each week for free. Watch them leave like wildlife running from the bushfire (no pun intended).
Put up permits. Scare off
Put up permits. Scare off capital investment. And now you want to make things harder by hiring on the basis of nationality rather than ability. Not going to happen until the economy turns around.
Okay would someone please
Okay would someone please explain to the Premier that the private sector isTRYING to hire Caymanians but when you run ad after ad, try reaching the DER, try and get them in to interview it is near impossible then when you tell them they have to work weekends or evenings or public holidays, forget it! Try and get a Caymanian to apply for a kitchen helper job or a food and beverage server or a dive instructor or a housekeeper or someone who works on commission only, try it for years and see how successful you are. I talk to HR Directors all the time and they are so frustrated because they are trying everything to hire Caymanians in to such roles but they rarely get an applicant and when they do it's like hiring rabbits you barely get the paperwork processed before many resign without notice and go to the next job
Of course it makes sense to hire Caymanians but the generation that had good work ethics is dwindling rapidly and in the private sector not all jobs are 9 to 5 Monday through Friday. So I suggest the Premier spend a few weeks with those in private sector HR and see how he gets on!
OMG
If Bush saw the calibre of the majority of the Caymanian applicants our business receives when we do advertise, he would understand exactly why there is 8% unemployment and 20,000+ work permits issued. We do get some good Caymanian applications for professionally qualified positions and have recently hired two, but for the administrative/secretarial roles and mid-level roles, we receive applications from people with no relevant qualifications or experience, people who have had 8 jobs in the last 18 months, people who can't write a letter or spell simple words and also people who leave an aptitude test after 3 hours saying they are tired and hungry - a test which should take an average person less than an hour! I could go on, but why bother, Bush is simply promoting the entitlement culture and until he goes and some young intelligent Caymanian blood takes office in his place, nothing can or will change.
I suppose he will now say
I suppose he will now say that he has no control over immigration policies too and that this is the remit of HE The Governor.
How quickly he forgets that it was his bunch that gave away 3000 status grants in 2001-2005 which crippled the majority of caymanians (young and old) and who were looking for work, from getting any of those jobs that the 3000 new caymanians were occupying.
It must be nearing election time because now he is talking (not doing) about things to help caymanians.
Well I am calling on the
Well I am calling on the Premier and whoever succeeds him in government to give the youth a better chance in employment by providing a proper tertiary education, and letting them spend their last 3 years in school studying subjects and gaining experience ready for the work environment. Step one has already been taken, by stopping them from being able to graduate without academic achievements. Now we just have to teach them something that will be useful when they leave school and start work. Please also add more vocational education, concentrating on what is required to get a job, rather than just adding to an already extensive list of useless qualifications.
Are you crazy
We have caymanians who have degrees and MBAs that are currently unemployed. They are porb more educated than you. They should have jobs not work pemit holders!!!
I hear this all the time, and
I hear this all the time, and I simply don't get it! With all the ads for Caymanian only in the paper, all the options available to Caymanians to stop expats from getting a position over a local, ie the WP Board that requires interview notes and all applications to be reviewed before the permit is granted, the Labour board, Immigration, DOE all of these options and an MBA holder can't find work really?
Or is it that as far as you are concerned the work being offered is beneath you or the salary is not big enough or is it that you do have an MBA, but no experience which at this time makes you more of a liability than an asset as companies are no longer interested in having to train people (local & expats alike) they just need someone who can do the work?
I have always maintained Cayman is not the place for a school leaver, that's not how your country markets it self. If Cayman is not providing what you need as a EU passport holder, head to Europe, do what you have to do to survive!
Locals
What I want the Premier to explain is the businesses that talked him out of taxing ex pats, the majority of their so called workers are all work permt holders...cashiers, stock boys, clerks, etc...how can the premier state a caymanian is qualified?????
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